hey guys im planning on starting my first AAS run with 400mg test e for 12 weeks and i'm gonna run 4iu hgh with it too (plan on staying on the gh even after the test is done) but i had a couple questions that are tripping me up
1- i had someone tell me that running a cycle like this with a PCT is basically just a waste of time and i'll just get all the sides without keeping any real gains... is that true? like i dont think i'm just gonna do one and never touch it again but i definitely wont be doing another one for a long time which is why i'd rather do a PCT instead of cruising but now im second guessing if its even worth the trouble
2- what kind of PCT would actually be enough for this? should i go with clomid or nolva or maybe enclo instead? im gonna be running hcg from about week 2 or 4 all the way til the end but i know i need something else to actually get my natural production back online after everything shut down
really appreciate any advice or help u guys can give me 🫡
honestly man, doing a proper PCT isn’t a waste even on a first cycle. you’ll thank yourself later when your gains stick and your hormones recover faster
400mg test e is pretty moderate, so a standard Nolva or Clomid PCT should do the trick. some people do a combo, some stick with one, both work if timed right
glad you’re running HCG during the cycle, that’ll help keep your testes from completely shutting down, but yeah you still need a PCT to really kickstart natural T
don’t overthink it too much, just plan the PCT to start 2 weeks after your last injection of test e and stick to it. that timing matters more than the exact brand sometimes
GH running alongside shouldn’t affect your PCT much, just make sure you’re tracking your recovery and bloodwork if you can. first cycles are learning experiences lol
nah running a proper pct isn’t a waste at all, especially if you’re not planning to jump right into another cycle
first cycle with just test is honestly the best move, you’ll keep more gains than you think if diet and training stay tight
hcg on cycle is smart, a lot of guys skip that and regret it later
nolva alone is usually enough for something like this, simple and effective without feeling like death
clomid works too but some people hate how it makes them feel mentally
gh staying in after the cycle should help you hold onto size and recovery anyway
sounds like you’re actually thinking this through which already puts you ahead of most first timers, don’t let people scare you out of pct logic
