AC262 is a solid choice if you're paranoid about your hair or your prostate, but don't kid yourself—it’s still going to suppress you. If you're chasing muscle gain while trying to keep the boys downstairs working, you're playing a bit of a balancing act. Running 5iu of HGH plus MK677 is already a massive stack just for "maintenance," so adding a SARM might actually feel a bit underwhelming compared to the bloat and hunger you're probably getting from the MK.
The "enclo as PCT" plan works for some, but AC262 is pretty mild; you might find you need to push the dose high to see real growth, and that’s when the suppression actually kicks in. If fertility is the #1 goal, just make sure you aren't staying on for 12+ weeks. Also, watch your blood glucose with that HGH/MK combo—that’s a recipe for becoming a temporary diabetic if you aren't careful. Personally, I'd stick to the AC at 10-20mg and keep the cycle short. It’s dry, it’s lean, and it won't shut you down as hard as something like LGD or RAD.
Spot on about the blood glucose. Running 5iu of HGH alongside MK677 is basically a scorched-earth policy for your insulin sensitivity. If you aren't checking your fasted BG every morning, you're playing with fire. Throwing a SARM on top of that—even one as "mild" as AC262—is just adding another variable to a metabolic environment that's already under a ton of stress.
The "fertility" angle with SARMs is always a bit of a gamble, too. People think because it’s not a needle, it’s not shutting them down, but suppression is suppression. If the boys start shrinking or your libido tanks, your fertility is taking a hit regardless of what the internet says about AC262 being "non-suppressive." It’s definitely more forgiving than RAD-140, but you still need to be smart.
If you’re dead set on this, keep the enclo on hand not just for the end, but maybe even as a "base" during the cycle if you start feeling lethargic. But seriously, prioritize that glucose monitoring. All the muscle in the world doesn't matter if you end up needing metformin just to process a carb. Keep the cycle tight, 8 weeks max, and see how your body handles the triple threat of GH, MK, and the SARM before you even think about pushing the dosages.
Mixing HGH and MK677 is like doubling down on a bet that your pancreas is going to lose eventually. You're basically hitting the same growth hormone receptors from two different angles, and the massive spike in IGF-1 is going to send your blood sugar on a wild ride. If you start waking up with numb hands or feeling like a bloated mess after every meal, that’s your body telling you it can't handle the glucose load. Honestly, running both is overkill for most guys unless you're trying to step on a pro stage.
And don't buy into the hype that AC262 is "side-effect free" just because it’s not as harsh as S23 or RAD. Anything that touches those receptors is going to cause some level of feedback, and if your natural test starts dipping, your fertility and mood are going to follow it down. Using enclomiphene as a safety net is a smart move, but don't let it give you a false sense of security. The real danger here isn't just getting suppressed, it's wrecking your insulin response so badly that you can't even grow from the food you're eating. Watch those fasted glucose numbers like a hawk and don't be afraid to pull back if the scale moves up ten pounds in a week from just pure water and inflammation. Stay safe and keep the durations short.
AC262 is definitely the "polite" SARM, but people always underestimate how much that MK677 messes with the whole picture. You're trying to stay dry and keep your hair with the AC, but then the MK turns you into a water balloon and makes you want to eat your entire fridge. It’s a weird combo. If you're already pinning 5iu of GH, you're deep in the woods anyway, so just keep a massive eye on those fasted glucose levels. I’ve seen guys get absolutely wrecked by the insulin resistance before they even noticed the muscle gains. The enclo should keep the lights on down there, but don't get cocky and think you're bulletproof just because AC isn't RAD140. Keep it short, keep the dose sensible, and don't be shocked if you still feel a bit flat once the cycle ends. It's all a trade off at the end of the day.
I’ve been curious about AC262 too. From what I’ve seen, it’s promising for lean gains and bone support, but there’s still not a ton of human data. With sarms, the hype is real, but the long-term effects are a big question mark. If you try them, keeping doses low and tracking everything is probably the smartest move.
yeah, i’d agree with this take. AC262 is solid for keeping sides low, but it’s not magic—you’re still messing with hormones. running it with HGH and MK677 is already a big metabolic load, so don’t expect crazy gains from the SARM alone. short and controlled is the way to go if fertility and general health matter. keep an eye on blood sugar too, that MK/HGH combo can sneak up on you fast.
totally agree—AC262 is nice and mild, but even at “safe” doses your natural test is still going to take a hit
yeah man, that MK677 + HGH stack will have your appetite going through the roof, so a SARM might feel kinda underwhelming in comparison
good call on keeping the AC262 cycle short—anything over 8-10 weeks and suppression starts to sneak up on you
honestly, monitoring blood sugar with that stack is huge—MK plus HGH can mess with it way faster than people expect
solid breakdown man, definitely makes me rethink stacking a SARM on top of that HGH/MK madness
haha “playing a balancing act” is the perfect way to put it, feels like walking a tightrope sometimes
good call on warning about glucose, that combo sounds like it could wreck your numbers fast
10-20mg AC262 short-term sounds way more manageable than trying to chase insane gains
honestly didn’t realize suppression could still be an issue with something that mild
