Honestly, I’m done with Primo. It’s so incredibly weak and my strength didn't even budge the whole time I was on it. I’ve given it a fair shot over a couple of cycles now, but the stuff just doesn’t do anything for me.
I'm ready to make the jump to Tren instead to actually see some progress. I was running the Primo at 500mg, so do you think 300mg of Tren is a solid alternative? I was looking at running Tren Ace for about 8 weeks, maybe doing 50mg every other day to hit that 300mg mark. Or do you think I need to go higher than that to really feel it?
For reference, I’m 44 years old and weighing in at 207 lbs. I just want something that actually moves the needle on my lifts this time around.
man primo is definitely a "look" drug, not a strength drug, so i totally get the frustration if you were expecting to move mountains lol. but just a heads up - jumping from primo to tren is like going from a bicycle to a rocket ship. 300mg of tren will absolutely smash your primo results, but just be ready for the side effects because they are night and day compared to how easy primo is on the body.
honestly at 44 you really dont need to go higher than 300mg of tren to start. that stuff is literally 5 times as anabolic as test, so 300mg is going to feel like a ton of power. you’ll definitely see the lifts go up, just keep an eye on your temper and your sleep because those are usually the first things to go south when you make the switch.
if primo at 500mg didn't do it for you, tren is definitely the answer, but man be careful what you wish for! it'll make you strong as hell but it can be pretty harsh on the cardio and your kidneys. i'd stick with that 50mg every other day plan for the first few weeks just to make sure you dont lose your mind before you hit the 8 week mark lol.
i feel you on the primo cost vs results thing - it’s way too expensive to just sit there and feel nothing. 300mg of tren ace is a solid dose for 207 lbs and you'll definitely see that "grainy" look and the strength spike you're after. just make sure you have some caber on hand in case the prolactin starts acting up!
haha yeah primo is definitely the "slow and steady" play, while tren is the "everything changes right now" play. you'll definitely move the needle this time around, but i wouldnt go any higher than 300mg for your first time. tren is way more toxic than primo, so just listen to your body and dont be afraid to drop the dose if the night sweats get too brutal. good luck man!
going from primo to tren is like switching from a bicycle to a rocket ship lol. primo is for slow steady tissue but tren will definitely move the needle on your lifts. just be ready for the night sweats and the "tren temper" because it's a completely different animal especially at 44
primo is really more for the "look" and keeping muscle on a cut than for pure strength. at 207 lbs you'll definitely get stronger on tren but just watch your blood pressure. it can spike pretty bad and at our age that’s the main thing to worry about
300mg of tren ace is no joke. 50mg every other day is actually closer to 175-200mg a week though if you do the math? if you want to hit 300 you'd need like 75-100mg EOD. but honestly start low man tren is way more powerful than primo mg for mg
primo is fake half the time or underdosed so maybe you just had bad gear? but yeah if you want strength tren is the king. just make sure your cardio is on point because it can absolutely wreck your endurance. i can barely walk up stairs when im on it lol
good luck with the sleep man! tren makes me stare at the ceiling for 4 hours every night. 200mg is plenty to see insane strength gains without losing your mind. 300 is getting into "pro" territory for a lot of guys
i’m 45 and i wont touch tren anymore because the recovery takes forever and it makes me way too irritable with my family. if you're set on it just keep the test low and the tren moderate- it helps keep the side effects a bit more manageable
if your lifts didn't budge on 500mg of primo maybe check your diet and training too? gear is great but it won't fix a bad program. that being said tren will definitely force you to get stronger whether you want to or not haha
tren ace is the way to go for the first time since it leaves your system fast if you can't handle the sides. don't go higher than 300mg man you don't need it. at 207 lbs you're going to see some crazy changes even at a lower dose
haha welcome to the dark side. primo is the "gentleman's steroid" and tren is the exact opposite. just buy some extra sheets for the night sweats and maybe some melatonin. you're gonna be a beast in the gym though for sure
