so im starting to map out my second cycle and wanted to get some feedback. my first run was 16 weeks of test at 700mg and i threw in 20mg of anavar for the last 8 weeks which went pretty well honestly.
now im looking at doing a 20 week blast. i was originally thinking about just doing the 700 test again but adding primo this time around, though lately ive been reading a ton about deca and how its supposed to be amazing for packing on pure mass. so now im leaning towards something like 700 test with 300 primo and 300 deca but idk what do you guys think?
the thing is i barely had any side effects last time and i figured out i dont really aromatise that much so i almost never needed an ai which is why im lowkey scared to push the primo any higher than that. i dont want to crash my estrogen or anything. im not sure if these ratios make sense or if i should just introduce things one by one? maybe run the primo for the first 10 weeks to see how i feel then add the deca for the final 10? let me know if thats a dumb idea or if there's a better way to go about it
700 test for a first cycle is a massive dose bro lol most guys start at half that. if you didnt have issues with 700 then adding 300 primo should be totally fine since primo is pretty mild. i wouldnt worry too much about crashing your e2 at those ratios but definitely keep some dbol or something on hand just in case you feel it dropping
dont swap compounds halfway through a 20 week blast man that just makes it impossible to know whats causing side effects if things go south. if u want mass just run the test and deca together from the start. deca takes like 6 weeks to even really "kick in" anyway so a 10 week run at the end is kind of a waste of time imo
honestly if the first cycle went well with just test and var why not just stick to what works? adding primo AND deca at the same time is a lot of new variables for only your second go. maybe just pick one- like test and primo for a clean look or test and deca if u just want to get huge and dont mind a little water weight
20 weeks is a long time to be "on" so make sure you got your bloodwork scheduled for the middle of it. also watch out for the deca dick lol... some guys get it even on high test. if you start feeling "soft" in the bedroom you might need to lower the deca or check your prolactin levels. 300 is a moderate dose though so you might be fine
i love primo but it can be expensive as hell to run for 20 weeks at a decent dose. 300mg is a good "add on" but if you really want that muscle mag look you usually need it a bit higher. since you don't aromatize much though i'd be careful- start at 300 like you planned and see how your joints feel after a month. if they're clicking and popping your e2 is too low
honestly man if the first cycle went that well i wouldn't overcomplicate it too much. adding deca AND primo at the same time makes it hard to know which one is causing issues if you get sides. maybe just pick one? if you're chasing pure mass then the deca is probably the move- but maybe keep the dose a bit lower since it’s your first time with it.
700 test is a lot so you probably have some room for the primo but i'd be careful. if you don't aromatize much anyway then 300 primo might actually be enough to pull your e2 down lower than you'd like. id say start the primo lower and see how you feel after 4 weeks before bumping it up. crashing your e2 is a nightmare you dont want lol
the 10 weeks on 10 weeks off idea for the compounds is okay but deca stays in your system forever. if you run it for the last 10 weeks it’s still gonna be floating around long after you stop. id probably just pick one and run it the whole 20 weeks so you get the full benefit- deca really shines when you give it time to work.
sounds like a solid bulk setup! 700 test and 300 deca is a classic mass builder. the primo is a nice touch for keeping things "clean" looking but just keep an eye on your hair and skin. since you handled the first cycle like a champ you'll probably be fine but yeah- maybe just introduce one new thing at a time to be safe?
20 weeks is a long time so definitely keep an eye on your bloodwork halfway through. i like the 700/300/300 split but honestly i’d just pick either primo or deca for this run. if you want to grow- go with the deca. if you want to stay lean and dry then stick with the primo. mixing both can get expensive and complicated for a second cycle.
