i just saw a video by kurt havens where he basically called test cyp a trash ester which caught me off guard because ive only ever ran enanthate. has anyone here actually noticed a legit difference between the two? id love to hear if it actually changed anything like your bloodwork or just general quality of life and physique stuff or if its all just talk- let me know if switching made any difference for you guys or if i should just stick with what i know works
lol kurt says a lot of wild stuff for views- honestly they're basically the same thing. cyp has a slightly longer half life but in the real world you wont notice a difference in your physique. if test e is working for you just stick with it man no reason to fix what isnt broken.
i actually switched from e to c because the test e was giving me some major pip... for some reason the cyp is just way smoother for my body. bloodwork came back exactly the same though so the "trash ester" comment is probably just him being dramatic lol
i’ve ran both and couldn't tell you which was which if the labels were missing. maybe if your pinning like once every two weeks the half life matters more but if your doing twice a week or more it literally doesn't matter. kurt just likes to stir the pot sometimes.
"trash ester" is a bit much but i guess he’s gotta get those clicks somehow. i prefer cyp just because it's what my trt doc prescribes and it’s always worked fine. never felt like i was missing out on anything by not using enanthate.
it’s basically Coke vs Pepsi man... some guys swear one is better but at the end of the day it’s still just testosterone. unless your having an allergic reaction to the carrier oil in one of them you won't see any difference in your gains or bloodwork.
i think the only "legit" difference is that test e is technically like 1% more testosterone by weight because the ester is slightly smaller but you'd never actually notice that in your results. stick with what you got if it’s high quality gear!
lol kurt loves to have "hot takes" for views. honestly there is almost zero difference man. the cypionate ester is like one carbon atom longer than enanthate so the half-life is basically the same in the real world. if enanthate is working for u don't overthink it
i actually switched from E to Cyp last year because the enanthate was giving me a bit more PIP (post injection pain) for some reason. in terms of bloodwork and gains? literally identical. kurt is just being dramatic calling it trash lol.
the only legit difference is that enanthate can sometimes be suspended in thin oils like grapeseed while cyp is often in cottonseed which is a bit thicker. unless you're allergic to one of the carrier oils you wont notice a thing. stay on the E and save your money bro.
haha "trash ester" is a reach. if cyp was trash then 90% of trt clinics wouldn't be prescribing it exclusively. i've run both and my total test levels were the same on both at the same dose. stick with what you know is legit
i think he says that because cyp has a tiny bit less actual testosterone per mg because the ester is slightly heavier... but we're talking like a couple milligrams. you'd never notice it in the mirror. kurt’s videos are cool for some things but this is just nitpicking for the sake of it.