I'm officially kicking off my first real cycle on November 1st. I’ve been on a cruise dose of TRT (100mg a week) for about six months, but I bumped that up to 250mg (split into two shots) seven weeks ago just to see how I'd react. My bloodwork actually looks great. It turns out I’m not a big aromatizer - my E2 was only at 27.1 on the 250mg dose. Since I’m committed to being on TRT for life, I’m skipping the whole PCT worry.
Right now, I have Test C and EQ on hand. But looking at my labs, I’m starting to second-guess the EQ. Since my estrogen is already on the lower side, I’m worried it might totally crash my E2.
Here is the plan I was leaning toward:
- 500mg Test C per week
- 300mg EQ per week
For a bit of context, I'm 27 and definitely not some huge "jacked" dude yet. I just dropped 50 pounds and the goal now is to start packing on some solid, lean muscle. I’m open to pretty much any advice you guys have - just please spare me the "reach your natural limit first" speech lol. I already know.
If it helps you give better advice, I can post some current physique shots in the comments. Let me know what you think!
Honestly man if your E2 is only 27 on 250mg of test that EQ is definitely going to crush you. I’m a low aromatizer too and 300mg of EQ would have me feeling like a zombie with clicking joints in no time. Maybe start the test at 500 and see where your bloods are before adding the EQ?
congrats on the 50lb weight loss thats huge. since its your first real blast i'd almost say just stick to the 500 test and leave the EQ in the drawer for now. you'll grow like crazy anyway and it makes it way easier to figure out what’s going on if you start getting sides.
yeah stay far away from that EQ for now lol. with your estrogen already sitting that low on a "mini blast" dose the EQ will tank you. low e2 is way more miserable than high e2 trust me. you dont want to be dealing with zero libido and depression while your trying to gain muscle.
500 test is a classic first cycle for a reason. i'd just run that solo and keep the EQ for next time. plus if you start shedding or getting acne you'll know exactly what’s causing it. keep us posted on the progress man especially since your already on trt it should be a smooth ride.
i'd be curious to see the physique shots if you dont mind posting. helps to see where your starting from. but yeah like everyone else is saying - be careful with the EQ. it has a super long half life so if it crashes your estrogen your gonna be stuck feeling like crap for weeks before it clears out.
nice work on the trt base first. if you really want to run the EQ maybe try a lower ratio like 2:1 or even 3:1 test to EQ? but honestly just doing 500 test is gonna be plenty for a first run. no need to overcomplicate things yet!
honestly man i think your instinct is spot on about the EQ. since your E2 is already at 27 on 250mg test that EQ is almost definitely going to tank you at 300mg. low estrogen feels like absolute death - joint pain, zero libido, and just feeling like a shell of a human. id probably skip it for your first real blast and just see what 500mg test does for you solo
congrats on the 50lb weight loss bro that’s a huge win! at 27 and already on trt you're set up pretty well. if i were you i'd just run 500 test and keep it simple. you'll blow up just from that if your training is intense and your food is dialed in. you can always add more compounds later when you hit a plateau
definitely post the physique shots! it helps to see where your starting from. but yeah the eq thing is risky. some guys use eq as their ai but if your already sitting at 27 on 250 test you dont really have much estrogen to spare. maybe look into primo or masteron later down the line instead of eq?
man do not crash your estrogen lol i did it once by overdoing my ai and i literally couldnt even walk up stairs because my knees hurt so bad. 500 test should be a fun ride for you. just keep an eye on your blood pressure and enjoy the gains
300mg EQ is usually fine for most guys but since your labs are already showing low-ish conversion i'd definitely reconsider. 500mg test is going to be plenty to pack on lean muscle. also since you lost 50lbs recently make sure your not still in a massive deficit or you'll just be wasting the gear!
haha dont worry no "natural limit" speeches here. you're already on trt so the seal is broken lol. i'd stick to just the test at 500mg for 12-16 weeks. its way easier to manage one variable than two especially when one of them can mess with your mood and joints as much as eq can
i've ran eq before and the hunger was insane - literally couldnt stop eating. if you have a hard time sticking to a clean diet it might actually make you "fluffy" instead of lean lol. but yeah the e2 concern is legit. id probably pass on it this time around
welcome to the blast life man. since your not a big aromatizer you'll probably feel amazing on 500 test with no ai needed. that's basically the dream scenario for most guys. i'd save the eq for a later cycle when you're running even higher test doses
