just wanted to get a feel for what you guys prefer when it comes to high test with low extras vs running a lower test base and more anabolics. specifically curious about how people feel running npp, primo or eq and mast in that mix. is it actually better to just keep test at trt levels or slightly above and then add the other stuff or is it better to just run a big test base and sprinkle the others on top?
i know everybody is different and you gotta build your cycle based on bloodwork and all that but im just curious what their experience was like for you guys personally.
also i know people usually hate on orals but i see them used as kickstarters or finishers all the time so has anyone here actually tried both ways? id love to hear which one worked better for you and why you think that way is the move. thanks
high test makes me feel like a god but the acne is a nightmare lol. i’m a much bigger fan of keeping test around 200 and letting the primo or mast do the heavy lifting. way less bloat that way.
honestly i used to be a high test guy but once i tried "trt plus" with like 400-600mg of masteron it was a total game changer. feel way tighter and the libido is actually better for me.
team high test over here - nothing beats the strength gains for me. i just keep an ai on hand and i'm good to go. npp is a great add on too if your joints start feeling crunchy.
i feel like orals as a finisher is the way to go. using them as a kickstart just makes me lose my appetite 3 weeks in and then the rest of the cycle sucks because i cant eat enough.
eq is great but man it takes forever to kick in. if ur gonna run it with low test just make sure u dont crash your e2 because eq can act as an ai for some people. found that out the hard way haha.
just my 2 cents but i think low test + high npp is the goat for putting on mass without looking like a water balloon. just watch out for the deca dick lol.
i tried high test once and i was sweating just sitting on the couch. never again. low test and high primo is expensive as hell but its the only way i can actually function like a normal human.
definitely skip the oral kickstart. just be patient and let the long esters do their thing. your liver will thank you and youll actually be able to finish the cycle strong.
i actually like a medium test base - maybe 300? - then adding whatever else. it’s like the sweet spot where u get the mental benefits of test without the crazy side effects.
keep it simple man. the "sprinkling" method usually just leads to more confusion when things go sideways and u dont know which compound is causing the issue. pick one extra and run with it.
honestly man i've tried both and low test/high primo is the way to go if u can afford it. high test just makes me look like a bloated water balloon and the blood pressure spikes are no joke - much better to keep the test at like 200 and let the other stuff do the actual building.
honestly i'm a huge fan of the "test is best" approach. 500-750mg of test with just a little bit of mast to keep the bloat down feels way better to me than a complicated stack of 4 different things. the libido and energy are just on another level when the test is high
i actually switched to the low test/high anabolic style last year and i'm never going back. running test at 200mg and then pushing the primo or npp higher made me look way "harder" and i didn't have to deal with the crazy e2 spikes. it feels a lot cleaner on the body if you ask me
if you're gonna use orals i think they make way more sense as a finisher. using them as a kickstart just stresses your liver right at the beginning when the injectables haven't even saturated yet. better to save that "pop" for the end of the cycle when you're already looking good
