im starting to look into my next cycle but honestly the whole e2 management thing is still kind of confusing me - my last bloodwork at the end of my first blast had me at 5620 ng/dl for test and my e2 was sitting at 100 pg/ml. looking at just the numbers you'd think that e2 is way too high but i keep hearing its more about the ratio like keeping it 20:1 or 30:1 for test to e2... but if i go by that then my e2 would actually be low right? to be honest i felt totally fine at 100-no gyno or mood swings or even oily skin or acne or anything like that. i barely even touched an ai maybe just 6.25mg of aromasin every two weeks or so.
reason im asking is cause i want to add primo to the next run but since primo acts like an ai itself im not really sure where i should be trying to keep my e2 levels. anyone got experience with this?
primo is a totally different beast since it masks e2 symptoms too. if you add it in just start low and get bloods after 4 weeks. since you already barely needed an ai you might not need any at all with the primo in there
ratios are cool and all but 5000+ test is a massive dose lol. at that level the math gets weird. if you felt fine at 100 e2 then that's your "normal" while blasting. just be careful adding the primo because it can tank you pretty fast if you aren't careful
i’ve seen guys with 150 e2 who feel amazing and guys with 40 who feel like death. listen to your body more than the paper. the fact that you weren't popping aromasin like candy is a good sign that your body handles the aromatization well
just a heads up that primo doesn't just "act" like an ai for everyone, it can legit crush your estrogen into the dirt. since your e2 was already "low" relative to that massive test dose just be ready to drop the aromasin entirely when you switch
honestly if you felt good at 100 then don't overthink the numbers. the ratio stuff is a decent guideline but some guys just handle higher e2 better than others. if there was no gyno or bloat then you were probably in your sweet spot
If you felt good at 100 honestly that matters more than the ratio math. Numbers look scary on paper but symptoms tell the real story imo
Primo definitely dropped my e2 more than I expected I went from “perfect” to dry joints and zero libido real quick. Just keep an eye on how you feel
I wouldn’t chase some exact ratio - everyone aromatizes different. If you had no sides before you were probably dialed in already
Careful stacking primo + even a little aromasin… that combo can tank e2 fast. Happened to a buddy and he felt like garbage for weeks
Sounds like you’re one of the lucky ones who can run high test without crazy estrogen sides I’d start conservative with primo and adjust after bloods
